Comments on: “Unearthing Burial Laws” in Honolulu Weekly http://blog.kahea.org/2008/08/18/unearthing-burial-laws-in-honolulu-weekly/ Protecting Native Hawaiian Traditional and Customary Rights and Our Fragile Environment Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:33:59 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: OLA NA IWI: Naue Burials Lawsuit Highlights Systemic Problems at the State Historic Preservation Division « The Cultural Property Law Blog http://blog.kahea.org/2008/08/18/unearthing-burial-laws-in-honolulu-weekly/#comment-196 OLA NA IWI: Naue Burials Lawsuit Highlights Systemic Problems at the State Historic Preservation Division « The Cultural Property Law Blog Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:48:07 +0000 http://kahea.wordpress.com/?p=227#comment-196 [...] games with graves” on the Hawaiian-Environmental Alliance.  Also check out the commentary on the “Unearthing burial laws” [...] [...] games with graves” on the Hawaiian-Environmental Alliance.  Also check out the commentary on the “Unearthing burial laws” [...]

]]> By: kahea http://blog.kahea.org/2008/08/18/unearthing-burial-laws-in-honolulu-weekly/#comment-192 kahea Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:21:01 +0000 http://kahea.wordpress.com/?p=227#comment-192 We also remind others that this is not a space for personal attacks. Mahalo. We also remind others that this is not a space for personal attacks. Mahalo.

]]> By: bryna http://blog.kahea.org/2008/08/18/unearthing-burial-laws-in-honolulu-weekly/#comment-191 bryna Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:13:03 +0000 http://kahea.wordpress.com/?p=227#comment-191 "Manawai", your response ignores the issue at hand- which is about the failure of state & county agencies to appropriately interpet and implement the laws that would protect the dead. It is a recognizable fact that laws are not merely followed, but first subject to (mis)interpretations. Moreover, voters and legislators are not systematically included in this obscure process that is relegated to underregulated and mismanaged departments, agencies, powerful individuals and manipulable councils. Unless you're just that nice respectful kind of administrator/developer, there is really little impetu$ to protect the dead and their grave$ite$. That's why voters, and concerned legislators who have no intervening power in the graveyard of the courts & council, are left with the only option of protest. It is not because they haven't considered other options and pursued those for the past 1oo years. Now -not for reasons of offended sensibilities, nor difference of opinion, but rather lest this forum turn into some wasted haven for belligerent trolls- I feel the need to state that it is utterly stupefying, even laughable, to read such a comment as yours that resorts to unsubstantiated name-calling while hiding under a pen-name. Are your strong opinions weakened by the light? Please spare the hissing and say something... and stand up for it. “Manawai”, your response ignores the issue at hand- which is about the failure of state & county agencies to appropriately interpet and implement the laws that would protect the dead. It is a recognizable fact that laws are not merely followed, but first subject to (mis)interpretations. Moreover, voters and legislators are not systematically included in this obscure process that is relegated to underregulated and mismanaged departments, agencies, powerful individuals and manipulable councils. Unless you’re just that nice respectful kind of administrator/developer, there is really little impetu$ to protect the dead and their grave$ite$. That’s why voters, and concerned legislators who have no intervening power in the graveyard of the courts & council, are left with the only option of protest. It is not because they haven’t considered other options and pursued those for the past 1oo years.

Now -not for reasons of offended sensibilities, nor difference of opinion, but rather lest this forum turn into some wasted haven for belligerent trolls- I feel the need to state that it is utterly stupefying, even laughable, to read such a comment as yours that resorts to unsubstantiated name-calling while hiding under a pen-name. Are your strong opinions weakened by the light? Please spare the hissing and say something… and stand up for it.

]]> By: Manawai http://blog.kahea.org/2008/08/18/unearthing-burial-laws-in-honolulu-weekly/#comment-190 Manawai Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:10:26 +0000 http://kahea.wordpress.com/?p=227#comment-190 "…the law has been very misapplied and misinterpreted" That's total bullshit! The laws have been followed implicitly. If you don’t like the laws, then lobby to change them. If you can’t change them because the majority of voters and legislators don’t share your views, then challenge it in court as has been happening. If the court decides against you, then get used to it. You lost. Grow up and deal with your disappointment as we all must. People like the opportunist and underperforming attorney Alan Murakami do you an injustice by ranting that the legislature has been disingenuous. He ought to be arrested for inciting the illegal activity that has occurred since he woke up and joined the fray. What a loser! “…the law has been very misapplied and misinterpreted”

That’s total bullshit! The laws have been followed implicitly. If you don’t like the laws, then lobby to change them. If you can’t change them because the majority of voters and legislators don’t share your views, then challenge it in court as has been happening. If the court decides against you, then get used to it. You lost. Grow up and deal with your disappointment as we all must.

People like the opportunist and underperforming attorney Alan Murakami do you an injustice by ranting that the legislature has been disingenuous. He ought to be arrested for inciting the illegal activity that has occurred since he woke up and joined the fray. What a loser!

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